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Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:58 am
by kylejohnson
Hello! I'm busy planning how to program and upgrade my nano quadcopter once it arrives in May (yes, I'm a 2nd batch customer).

I thought that the 7 minute flight time is ok, but why not upgrade the battery for more flight time and peripherals? I estimate the 170mAh 3.7V battery that comes with the quadcopter to weigh about 4.1 grams. I have found a 340mAh battery that weighs 6.3 grams (assuming they are telling the truth), example: http://ufo-battery.en.alibaba.com/produ ... t_MP3.html

Adding on the http://www.fpvhobby.com/143-sub-nano-combo-set.html (which was mentioned in the comments section of the key chain camera blog post and accepts 3.5-5V power) would add another 1 gram.

So, total added weight is 3.2 grams for double battery capacity + camera!

EDIT: I forgot to state that the payload capacity seems to be 5 grams for good flying performance and 10 grams as an absolute max. Source: http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/preord ... -1365.html

Re: Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:14 pm
by tobias
Changing battery shouldn't be a problem but I'm not so sure your suggested battery will work that well.
They state:
10. Continous discharging current: 340mA
11. Discharging Current (Max. ): 680mA

The Crazyflie consumes 1400mA only when hovering. So to get good flight performance you need a >15C preferable 25C continuous discharge current. If you find a 340mAh with 25C and 6.2g please let us know because that would improve flight performance and flight time a lot ;-)

Re: Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:21 pm
by kylejohnson
Thank you for that input! I will continue the search and keep you updated. :)

Re: Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:10 am
by kylejohnson
My first update.. I have found the following 25C battery at http://thunderpowerrc.com/html/G6ProLit ... teries.htm

(third item from the table)

Model: TP240-1SPL25UM
Capacity/Cell Count/Voltage: 240mAh 1-Cell/1S 3.7V
Weight: 6.6 grams

They also have a 350mAh 3.7V battery, but at a cost of 11 grams.. a bit heavy

Re: Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:09 pm
by tobias
That battery would work much better but the dimensions are not optimal: 5.7x18.6x41.5. The "inner" shape of the Crazyflie is 30mm and it would be good if the battery stayed inside this dimension. Also a more square battery would give better flight dynamics as the inertia would be more even.

Re: Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:42 am
by kylejohnson
Thanks! I'm getting closer. :)

Re: Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:38 pm
by Peer Bentzen
And you can't use two batteries of the kind that comes with the Crazyflie in parallel and stacked?

Re: Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:21 am
by tobias
I'm not completely sure but it should be possible to stack them in parallel, a bit difficult to realize though.

Re: Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:57 pm
by DesTinY
I recommend to use velcro tape to attach the LiPo on the CF for faster battery exchange. It is also very well to find the perfect Balancing during the assembly.

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Re: Larger battery? 340mHa (plus 1 gram camera)

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:56 pm
by marcus
Another method (if you don't have access to velcro tape) is using a small rubber band like this:
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